Westley Richards made or made on Westley Richards patents

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Rick Riddell 180
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Westley Richards made or made on Westley Richards patents

Post by Rick Riddell 180 » Sun Apr 19, 2020 8:58 pm

Came across this c bolt Richards action and was curious to see if it is a Richards or made on a Richards patents? The gun is marked Isaac Hollis & sons London. Interesting thing, the inside action is marked S. Mills (Samuel Mills the actioner from Weaman st.?)
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trw999
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Re: Westley Richards made or made on Westley Richards patents

Post by trw999 » Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:59 am

Rick, it certainly looks like a WR toplever.

It seems there may be a patent number on the action flats. What is the number?

Tim

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Re: Westley Richards made or made on Westley Richards patents

Post by Rick Riddell 180 » Thu Apr 23, 2020 12:06 pm

Hey Tim, yes
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Re: Westley Richards made or made on Westley Richards patents

Post by trw999 » Mon Apr 27, 2020 8:51 am

Hi Rick,

Sorry it has taken a while to reply, I have been laid up with a bad foot and intermittently able to concentrate on the computer!

I can find no reference to either of these two numbers as actual patents, so must assume they are patent use numbers, in other words, serial numbers based on how often the patent has been used by another other than the original patentee. Unless anyone else knows differently?

Tim

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Re: Westley Richards made or made on Westley Richards patents

Post by Rick Riddell 180 » Mon Apr 27, 2020 11:39 am

I figured as much, would this confirm that this is a Richards patent made action and not an action supplied to Hollis by Richards? It is a spitting image of a Richards action both internally and external. Would Richards have used the original patent number on their actions? So many questions right! As extensive as the British trade was I’m so surprised there aren’t more records available.

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