A William Moore & Co. pinfire - seeking information on WM&Co.

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John 39
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Re: A William Moore & Co. pinfire - seeking information on WM&Co.

Post by John 39 » Mon May 27, 2019 12:42 pm

Stephen, you may be interested in a gun coming up at Holts next sale, apparently it is in fine condition. The gist of the story is as follows:

The gun and cartridge patented by Jean Samuel Pauly in 1812 is well known but Jean-Antoine Robert knew Pauly and to some extent copied his patent. Jean-Antoine Robert established his business in 1829 at 5 Rue J J Rousseau with workshops at 6 Rue Pichet.

Robert adapted Pauly's design by using a lifting cocking lever which extended from the barrel back over the "action" grip and comb. raising this exposed the barrels and cocked the gun.

The cartridge, initially paper but later metal foil, contained the black powder and bullet or shot, and contained the primer. The flattened tube-lock primer was in the shape of a tab (tab-fire) and the cartridges were inserted with this at the bottom.

The hammers were in the floor of the action and struck upwards against an anvil in the breech-block. The gas seal was effected by fine tolerances and a small hole in each barrel allowing gas to escape.

The design was used for military rifles, pistols and sporting shotguns, and it was tested by the Belgian and Swiss armies. It was not successful with the armies or the general public because of fouling and the danger of having primed cartridges in ammunition pouches and pockets. It did however win a gold medal in 1833 from the Academie d'Industrie and another in 1834 at the Paris Industrial Exhibition

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Re: A William Moore & Co. pinfire - seeking information on WM&Co.

Post by Stephen Nash 218 » Tue May 28, 2019 5:08 pm

John 39 wrote:
Mon May 27, 2019 12:42 pm
Stephen, you may be interested in a gun coming up at Holts next sale, apparently it is in fine condition. The gist of the story is as follows:

The gun and cartridge patented by Jean Samuel Pauly in 1812 is well known but Jean-Antoine Robert knew Pauly and to some extent copied his patent. Jean-Antoine Robert established his business in 1829 at 5 Rue J J Rousseau with workshops at 6 Rue Pichet.

Robert adapted Pauly's design by using a lifting cocking lever which extended from the barrel back over the "action" grip and comb. raising this exposed the barrels and cocked the gun.

The cartridge, initially paper but later metal foil, contained the black powder and bullet or shot, and contained the primer. The flattened tube-lock primer was in the shape of a tab (tab-fire) and the cartridges were inserted with this at the bottom.

The hammers were in the floor of the action and struck upwards against an anvil in the breech-block. The gas seal was effected by fine tolerances and a small hole in each barrel allowing gas to escape.

The design was used for military rifles, pistols and sporting shotguns, and it was tested by the Belgian and Swiss armies. It was not successful with the armies or the general public because of fouling and the danger of having primed cartridges in ammunition pouches and pockets. It did however win a gold medal in 1833 from the Academie d'Industrie and another in 1834 at the Paris Industrial Exhibition
I envy whoever acquires that beautiful Robert gun. What a wonderful piece of gunmaking history, so far ahead of its time!

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