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by John 39
Fri Jan 14, 2022 10:52 am
Forum: Rifle
Topic: Possible barrel makers mark on a Rook & Rabbit rifle
Replies: 4
Views: 98

Re: Possible barrel makers mark on a Rook & Rabbit rifle

Possibly George Rooker & Son, 1906, Handsworth, Birmingham.
by John 39
Sun Jan 09, 2022 11:42 am
Forum: Rifle
Topic: Mysterious English Rook Rifle
Replies: 8
Views: 168

Re: Mysterious English Rook Rifle

On second thoughts, I don't think the scrolled R is a reproof mark because it is not accompanied by a crown. Maybe it is the barrel maker's or finisher's mark, but this is unlikely because it wouldn't normally be in scroll. Maybe the proof house just forgot to put the crown on the R ? Mistakes were ...
by John 39
Sun Jan 09, 2022 11:28 am
Forum: Shotgun
Topic: CW Andrews hammerless SBS
Replies: 12
Views: 2432

Re: CW Andrews hammerless SBS

The C W Andrews is about 1907, not very specific I'm afraid. William Lee, about 1892, again not very specific. Salter & Varge - no idea, no serial numbers at all. BSA - 1910-1911 but serial numbers not very reliable. Midland Gun Co - 1910 about. If you don't drink you will die !
by John 39
Thu Jan 06, 2022 1:47 pm
Forum: Shotgun
Topic: John Patstone - email from James Warren posted by moderator
Replies: 4
Views: 74

Re: John Patstone - email from James Warren posted by moderator

Hello John, Thank you ever so much for your input. Very helpful as usual. Unfortunately there is no address on the rib, and no other marks on the barrels in front of the flats. The buttstock is a later replacement so no info there. This one will remain an enigma as to any closer dating. Best Regards...
by John 39
Thu Jan 06, 2022 11:46 am
Forum: Shotgun
Topic: John Patstone - email from James Warren posted by moderator
Replies: 4
Views: 74

Re: John Patstone - email from James Warren posted by moderator

EX would stand for Express and this would mean Nitro Powder proof, nothing to do with 1887.

Your gun is actually a 24 bore under the old descriptions, the 25 is a slightly more accurate, .577 merely confirms the calibre in inches
by John 39
Thu Jan 06, 2022 11:45 am
Forum: Shotgun
Topic: John Patstone - email from James Warren posted by moderator
Replies: 4
Views: 74

Re: John Patstone - email from James Warren posted by moderator

My article on British proof could be wrong, maybe you would know; in that the proof marks just show the gauge “25” and not an added “EX” (or .577 EX) that would mean before proof rules of 1887?
Wondering if the “.577” looks like it was stamped later?
by John 39
Thu Jan 06, 2022 11:45 am
Forum: Shotgun
Topic: John Patstone - email from James Warren posted by moderator
Replies: 4
Views: 74

Re: John Patstone - email from James Warren posted by moderator

Hi James, This gun was proved in London but that doesn’t mean it was made there but it may have been. Many wealthy individuals going to India and Africa bought guns at the last minute – in case they had to defend themselves against lions, tigers and elephants. Patstone had a good reputation although...
by John 39
Thu Jan 06, 2022 11:42 am
Forum: Shotgun
Topic: John Patstone - email from James Warren posted by moderator
Replies: 4
Views: 74

John Patstone - email from James Warren posted by moderator

Serial number enquiry:

Do you have information for a John Patstone, Southampton
.577 Express Double Rifle serial #1935

Should be on or after 1878?

Thanks so much and best regards,
by John 39
Fri Dec 31, 2021 10:42 am
Forum: Rifle
Topic: Mysterious English Rook Rifle
Replies: 8
Views: 168

Re: Mysterious English Rook Rifle

We can't access the photos but the scrolled "R" might indicate reproof which may have happened in London, possibly after the muzzle was changed. The London proof is interesting if it is the original proof (which is likely) because almost all rook and rabbit rifles were made and proved in B...
by John 39
Thu Dec 30, 2021 12:31 pm
Forum: Rifle
Topic: Possible barrel makers mark on a Rook & Rabbit rifle
Replies: 4
Views: 98

Re: Possible barrel makers mark on a Rook & Rabbit rifle

Extract from our historical database: Trade: Barrel makers & riflers Dates: 1862-1920 Notes: Arthur Adams and Joseph Tait established their business in 1862 at 46 Price Street. The firm moved in 1864 to 1 Price Street, and in 1865 to 1 New Buildings, Price Street. Up to 1871 they rifled barrels ...