model designations.

User: sd/mt pga pro

Date: 19 Jul 2005 at 17:36

I am a newcomer to this board, as of this morning.
I own three SxS's made by British gunmakers.
I bought all because I like the guns for how they look and how they balance for me.
One is a H. J. Hussey Imperial.
The use of the word Imperial implies to me that it is a model designation and I have noted that other makers also have used the same name in their line of guns. I also see names such as "Sovereign" used, so I think that there must be an established criterior for usage as a model designator, between gunmakers, understood by buyers.
Please help me gain that understanding, as such is not common here in the states.
Thank you.
Best regards,
Bob C.

User: Smudger

Date: 19 Jul 2005 at 19:25

Hi Bob,

An H J Hussey "Imperial"? You are lucky! I've never seen an H J Hussey, or Hussey & Hussey, or Harrison & Hussey that wasn't a top quality gun.

The Imperial is the "model" name but I always feel that as the guns were usually bespoke items, that word isn't entirely appropriate. It seems to me that "model" refers to the quality of the gun and the range of options the maker recommends for that quality. I think this comment applies to all the "Best" gun makers.

There was / is a recognised ranking of model names by makers and buyers, but it's difficult to describe even if one is English! The names follow the rankings of their meanings, or the usual orders of precedence i.e. "Imperial" would be better than "Colonial" or "Dominion" (I'm not sure which of these would rank higher!). I guess "Sovereign" is as good as "Royal", "Rex" and "Regal", but "Regent" or "Windsor" would not be quite so good! I guess "de Lux" would be a fairly ordinary model, "de Luxe" would be better, "Modele de Luxe" or "Modele de Grand Luxe" would be top quality - as good as "Imperial" or "Sovereign". "Super de Luxe" would probably be fairly ordinary (like "Modele de Grand Luxe" which was used by Westley Richards, it sounds a bit exaggerated for a sober and respectable gunmaker, but Holland & Holland used it so I must be wrong!). I'm not sure that words like "Apex", "Premier" or "Zenith" had much meaning 150 years ago, they certainly don't now, just advertising jargon, but things must have names and to me they seem to have more going for them than "I-Pod", "Google" or "Blog"!

This is a general guide about something one can't generalise about!

Welcome to the website!

[ This message was edited by: Smudger on 2005-07-19 19:29 ]

User: sd/mt pga pro

Date: 19 Jul 2005 at 23:37

Thank you!
Your information helps.
Bob C.